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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#41 Post by indrapr » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:05 am

From what I understand (based on a newbie's view, so please correct me if I'm wrong):

Due to the MSM-MFM split, the northern area of peninsular Malaysia has to be remapped. Noah has volunteered to re-map those areas and he'll be using his masmap.org map as a base.

So it's not that masmap is taking MSM's tracks and POIs, it's actually the other way around. MSM community will be using masmap's map as a base (with Noah's permission) to remap the areas for MSM.

Please CMIIW.

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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#42 Post by mlsgVC » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:38 pm

kploh wrote:
If you are malsingmaps value contributor, why u need to register as a new member to post your unhappy message ??
Why you scare people knowing you ?? as a brave,
Please use your origin VC member to post again. Thanks
There are few of us so we decided decided to register as newbie. malsingmaps have backdoor forum for VC. We post it here because we want all others know it.

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Re: Next Map Update

#43 Post by zarzain » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:22 pm

Dear people,
As users and intermittent contributors as well as people NEW to GPS and mapping, it is fun being able to contribute and follow the additions and expansion of this community & the map. However it is not a secret now that the new MFM site is giving away free maps with new features and frequent updating. If it is meant to be a healthy competition and also a choice for users, it is great but if accusations and malicious statements are being hurled due to 'internal' matters which people like me have no knowledge about is seen in this forum, it would create animosity and hate and the VICTIMS will just be ourselves, Malaysians making map of their own country. How sad. MFM is a novelty for sure for new users and with their powerful backbone of senior mappers from MSM previously of course it has something to offer but MSM has so much data collected with 70+ thousand registered users has merit on it's own and whoever is leading it now is trying his best to mantain that, I'm sure. So for those who know the 'internal' story and problem (which may or may have not ) caused the formation of MFM please sort it out among yourselves and not make this forum a place to 'expose' or accuse the mappers. No one will benefit if we stop contributing and the senior mappers stop working on the maps. There is enough politicking elsewhere and if even if a mapping community like this also has politics....(what are kind of world are our children growing in...?)
Cheers everyone. Make this a happy place! :)

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Re: Next Map Update

#44 Post by kploh » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:56 pm

zarzain wrote:.....MSM has so much data collected with 70+ thousand registered users has merit on it's own
pls check it out how many percentage of 70+ thousand registered users with " 1 " post.
to encounrage more user to contribute track, POI.
I think should at least monthly release map updated is enough, at least we can see whether our contribution been updated. IMHO, No need so frequently release new map.

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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#45 Post by mnd_43 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:10 pm

Every hobby will cost u
Even here ... this free hobby MSM will cost your time , meal n fuel
n of coz the gadgets + electric n internet bills !

Last time l went fishing n have spent much money on equipments + the transport n boats rent ....
n very happy if l can bring home something to cook even a small fish !
most of the time return home empty handed !
... but who makes the profits ?
of coz the tackle shops n the boat owner ...

Here ... l m very happy when l see ' my single tiny road ' on the map ....
very proud of it eventhough nobody else knows it was me ...

... here is a place just to be happy ...

n just happy ... n nothing else !
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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#46 Post by tlchuan » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:53 pm

mlsgVC wrote: There are few of us so we decided decided to register as newbie. malsingmaps have backdoor forum for VC. We post it here because we want all others know it.
Ah yah brother why so :fire: , be cool if your contribution is not update or msm maps late to update it maps, don't just get :fire: , you still have a choice to choose the best maps available out there, please give msm a chance to make a come back, as the new mapper are working hard to update NPM maps. as for the v2.30 maps is sufficient to navigate from Bkt kayu hitam to singapore. :wink:
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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#47 Post by chewitt » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:20 pm

tlchuan wrote: Ah yah brother why so :fire: , be cool if your contribution is not update or msm maps late to update it maps, don't just get :fire: , you still have a choice to choose the best maps available out there, please give msm a chance to make a come back, as the new mapper are working hard to update NPM maps. as for the v2.30 maps is sufficient to navigate from Bkt kayu hitam to singapore. :wink:
Bravo bro tlchuan. Cool 8-) . You're the man...
Just need to encourage instead of :fire:

Not to forget I'm new here.

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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#48 Post by mnd_43 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:47 pm

mlsgVC wrote:
There are few of us so we decided decided to register as newbie. malsingmaps have backdoor forum for VC. We post it here because we want all others know it.
l dont think so there are a few ... just a single mlsgVC
n not actually a VC ... just n an un elected VC !
just show yourself like a hero
no need to shout from the unknown ...
coz ppl wont hear n respect u
n if u need to write about politic this is not the right place ...
coz ppl here are not interested !

dont worry be happy !
:D ... de 9W2BPN

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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#49 Post by mlsgVC » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:16 am

Our point here are we don't want another slipt-up again. :cry:

Track Log & POIs are belong to contributor. Map belong to mapper this are golden rules of malsingmaps.com, we accepted. :finga:

Noah should not use our Track Log & POIs to build MASmaps. If he do, others will follow. [-(
Then what protection (Track Log & POIs) we have ? :thumbsdown:

Noah already start masmap.org for sometime, there are volunteer mapper from MSM and using our MSM data to do maps for masmap.org. :fire:

Do U see our points here ? This will be next split-up starter.

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Re: Next Map Update : Version 2.31?

#50 Post by Noah » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:42 am

Hi mlsgVC, our maps are open source in nature. It belongs to the community. So if whatever happens in the future between Masmap and Malsingmaps, rest assure that the new Malsingmapper can make use of the source MP file to continue mapping where we left off, without restrictions.

In contrast, the recent practice was when a mapper leaves Malsingmaps, he would bring his MP file with him. Although the mappers for KLR, NPM, PRK and EPM have left their map SHP files at Malsingmaps, they have placed a restriction on these maps - Malsingmaps are not allowed to edit these maps. This is against the community spirit, more so because these maps were created at Malsingmaps in the first place. When I left Malsingmaps in 2006 due to irreconceivable differences with the KL mapper, I made the then ECR (now EPM) open in nature so no such restrictions was placed even then.

Regarding Malsingmaps tracklogs and POIs submitted by its members, and are now being used by Masmappers to map at masmap.org and in the remap of NPM, PRK and EPM - collectively will be known as MasmapNPM and integrated into Malsingmaps v2.31 and above, the license clearly states that anyone is allowed to do so if they so wish:
The community owns the "Source" of our maps, by this we mean the tracks and POIs. These are published on our site and anyone can download them and convert them to maps, if they so decided to invest their time and energy to do the conversion. No tracks, no POIs, no maps.

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