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Re: Church Watch

#31 Post by bernGPS » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:35 am

Noah wrote:The scary thing is that he probably believed he did it for his God.
Yes, but its probably not the same one as yours noah.

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Re: Church Watch

#32 Post by 255W » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:21 pm

Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?fi ... sec=nation
Malaysians advised against being immersed in Facebook, Twitter

SEREMBAN: Malaysians, especially Muslims, must avoid being totally immersed in the internet culture, especially Facebook and Twitter, said Information Communication and Culture Minister Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim.

He added that facilities like internet could not be accepted wholly because it was a form of business introduced by the West and "Malaysians were just users."

"We are not saying that they cannot use Facebook or Twitter but when using such facilities they must upkeep the values taught by Islam, Buddhism or Christianity to maintain our culture," he told reporters after opening a Seminar on the 1Malaysia concept here on Saturday.

He added that Malaysians who used internet services on social networking sites should be careful with what they see and hear.

"We must be strong in our believes and culture because the identity and image of our country depends on us.

"They are just selling Facebook, Twitter, L-Band and various other services, even through space, as a product but we do not do such business. We accept all this in a state of cultural shock," he said.

He chided some Malaysians who belittled those who were no savvy of the Facebook and Twitter culture.

"We should not be quick to condemn or look down on those who do not use Facebook. Newspapers are still relevant, so is Facebook, but do not be carried away with everything and disregard the old system," he said.

Rais also praised the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (SKMM) for its success in tracking down a student from the National Arts Culture and Heritage Academy for posting a public safety threatening comment on Facebook about the recent spate of attacks on churches while discussing the ongoing "Allah" controversy on the popular social networking website.

"Syabas to the commission for its action in nailing those who used Facebook, Twitter and SMS for the wrong reasons.

"As a former analyst of the law in the country, I wish to advise the people that they cannot escape from the law for their actions," he said.

Rais said the Information Department had also found that 62% of Malaysians understood the 1Malaysia concept.

He added that the Government would initiate more programmes featuring the 1Malaysia concept, especially for students. - BERNAMA

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Re: Church Watch

#33 Post by Noah » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:54 pm

I agree with the article.

Take everything you read with a pinch of salt.

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Re: Church Watch

#34 Post by naim » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:10 pm

Hahaha, where did he get wind of the L-Band? Don't even mention the S-Band to him. And X-Band? Heaven forbids. LOL!
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Re: Church Watch

#35 Post by 255W » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:53 am

Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?fi ... sec=nation
Lone culprit in Seremban church attack, say police


SEREMBAN: Preliminary investigations have shown that only one person was involved in the alleged attack of the Grace Global Prayer church in Happy Gardens.

State police chief SAC I Datuk Osman Salleh said the suspect did not use any hard object to break the glass panel of the windows.

A witness saw someone walking past the church on Friday night and that he hit the glass panel.

But police did not find any wood or stone object at the crime scene.

“We doubt if this had anything to do with the attack at the other churches but we are not ruling out anything,” he said.

It is the second church in the state and the 10th in the country targeted by vandals and arsonists after a court ruling allowed the Catholic weekly Herald to use the word Allah in its publication.

Meanwhile in Kuching, committee members of the Masjid Ar-Riyadh in Kota Samarahan were surprised to find broken glass outside the building. However, there was no damage to the building.

Police investigating the incident said it was unlikely to be related to the controversy over the use of “Allah” by non-Muslims.

Samarahan acting police chief Asst Supt Abu Bakar Mokhtar said the committee members found the broken glass beside the footpath leading to the entrance when they went to the mosque at 6.50pm.

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Re: Church Watch

#36 Post by 255W » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:09 am

Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?fi ... sec=nation
Muslim and Christian NGOs condemn attacks on houses of worship

By NIK NAIZI HUSIN

KUANTAN: Seventeen Muslim non-governmental organisations and 13 Christian ones in Pahang have got together to seek a consensus over the issue of attacks on houses of worship.

All 30 have condemned the moves by certain quarters to disturb the harmony among all religions in the country.

Among the NGOs involved yesterday were the Malaysian Islamic Youth Movement (Abim), Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia, All-Malaysia Federation of Muslim Undergraduates, the Kuantan Baptist Church, Kuantan Chapel and Victory Assembly.

Abim deputy president Amidi Abdul Manan and Wee Hoe Chang of Victory Assembly, representing the NGOs, urged all parties to respect each other and to stop any action that could create anxiety among Malaysians.

They also called for a peace meeting to be attended by various religious leaders and followers from time to time.

Yesterday’s gathering, initiated by the NGOs, were also attended by officers from the state Police Contingent headquarters and Kuantan district police station.

Amidi said a statement of solidarity would be disseminated among the people in Pahang with plans to take it nationwide.

George Lau, a representative of the Christian pastors, urged all quarters to respect the provisions on religion in the Federal Constitution.

“As NGOs, we urge the parties responsible to end the disturbances,” he said.

He said NGOs would always support initiatives to enhance interaction and understanding among people of different religions in Malaysia and elsewhere.

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Re: Church Watch

#37 Post by 255W » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:11 am

Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?fi ... sec=nation
Usage of word not an issue, says Anwar

KUANTAN: The usage of the word “Allah” by Christians to refer to “God” should be allowed, Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said.

He said that the word had been used about 1,000 years ago by the Christians and this was not an issue.

“Our stand is similar to PAS that the word can be used by non-Muslims, but it should not be abused. The issue to address now is whether it may be abused and not its actual usage per se by those of the Christian faith,” he told reporters after opening the state PKR convention in Tan Jung Restaurant here yesterday.

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Re: Church Watch

#38 Post by 255W » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:49 pm

Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?fi ... sec=nation
Church attacks: Student claims trial over Facebook comment

PETALING JAYA: A student who was charged in the Sessions Court here for using the Internet to issue a statement that could jeopardise public safety, has pleaded not guilty to the charge.

Mohamad Tasyrif Tajudin, 25, an Akademi Seni Budaya dan Warisan student, made the plea on Monday before judge Aslam Zainuddin after the charge was read. The court fixed March 4 for case mention.

He had been charged on Friday but no plea was recorded as Aslam was away on official duty in Shah Alam.

Mohamad Tasyrif was charged with consciously using the Internet application to make a comment on Facebook with the intention of disturbing others by using the consumer’s account of Shahrul Maizam, by writing “ke nak aku baling bom petrol di sana plak?...harga boleh runding...” (should I throw the petrol bomb there now?...price is negotiable)...”

The offence is alleged to have been committed at house number B10-17-20, Blok 10, Jalan PJS 2B/1, Desa Mentari 2, Petaling Jaya at 10am on Jan 10.

He was charged under Section 233(1)(a) of the Communications and Multimedia Act which carries a fine of up to RM50,000 or a jail term of up to one year or both upon conviction.

Aslam allowed Mohamad Tasyrif bail of RM6,000 with one surety. The accused was represented by lawyer Mohd Radzlan Jalaludin while Deputy Public Prosecutor Amirah Mohamed Yusuff appeared for the prosecution.

Mohamad Tasyrif’s father, Tajuddin Awang, 51, posted bail.-Bernama

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Re: Church Watch

#39 Post by 9W6VX » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:43 am

naim wrote:Actually the Christian concept of trinity points to monotheism too, so too the 'many' gods/deities in Hinduism. Akin to Islam's Allah and the 99 names. So in my book, same dude, but in different dimensions. Not worth firebombing anybody for sure. :mrgreen:

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Re: Church Watch

#40 Post by Noah » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:31 am

The only difference between Christian and Islam is the concept of God having a child. Should this concept be taken literally or metaphorically? Since we are all created by God aren't we all metaphorically His children?

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